Been a regular here since early 2013 and have always thought this is the best gentlemans club Ive ever been in, by far. Its heyday occurred between about 2015 - 18 when you could get somewhere with many of the girls OUTSIDE of the club... privates and escort dates, and phone numbers galore. My success has really declined since covid, however. The quality has declined except for the Cuban girls who have been the mainstay of this club for the past several years.This is my 3rd review. The last one 4 years ago. I still enjoy it, but its not the same anymore.
Victoria’s the best! Not only is she super hot and wears the sexiest outfits, she also gives the best lap dances. Tip her well. DBAA!
My first time at a strip club. I was very nervous. They seem professional. The girls treated me good. I might have spent too much but was totally worth it. Although i do got to say 30 is good 40 makes me not want to do another dance. Honestly i came here for the one on one service. Im completely satisfied. They charge 7 bucks to withdraw at atm. I like the big dude at the entrance he was friendly. I didnt connect with the girls that didnt speak English that well. I couldnt tell how much or what they were saying. I do like a little bit of conversation thats nice. Im definitely coming back 5 stars! The girls each charge different prices.
This club is very welcoming and clean. The staff and security were all friendly as well as the dancers. My fiancee and I enjoyed this club and will definitely be back!
Honestly I am really disgusted about how management works there. Why are women being rifled up! Why is the manager not doing anything and blaming the dancers and ignoring them. Bring taking to ER and being asked to look in the cameras but you don’t is crazy. You just need to shut down! It is bad business and should not have open in the beginning. Those guys who rifled up this women in the club should be arrested!!! For management to let it slide is not human at all!! You are a greedy person who only cares about your money and not the safety of your dancers!! I wish I can give it a ZERO!! Please don’t go there !!!
I’ve had good times at Curves but the last few times I’ve gone, I’ve been bitterly disappointed. The dancers here WILL rip you off. If you paid for one dance, she’ll say it was 2. If the price was 30 dollars for a dance, it’s now 45. I’m sure these folks have to deal with some jerks, but I’ve never disrespected anyone and just want to have a nice time. There are much better clubs out there in Tucson, with more positive atmospheres, and honest dancers.
If I could give zero stars I would. Do you want to go out and have a good night or do you want to have to worry about getting roofied and nobody taking any action or accountability for it? It really blows my mind the owner and manger of this establishment isn’t making sure they’re doing what needs to be done to keep not only their CUSTOMERS safe but as well as their workers. The owner knows of everything going on in his club and is blaming his customers and dancers for the things that are happening to them and not even making an attempt to check the cameras or giving up the footage but instead is VICTIM BLAMING. What if this was your friend sister cousin.? Please don’t end up in the ER like my friend did because of this establishments carelessness.
I went there like a month ago and had a great experience. I also noticed some dumb girl (customer) being Totally RUDE & filming one of the dancers while she was TOPLESS. The dancer kindly asked her to not do that a few times, but the entitled customer didn’t listen. Long story short, she got her phone tossed across the room. In my opinion, serves her right. Dancer stood up for herself and deserves everyone’s money 💖
If you want to go and enjoy a drink, go right ahead.If you go to use the private rooms, BEWARE. The owner threatens to blackmail the girls by using their videos, and the same will happen to customers.YOU ARE BEING RECORDED AND YOUR FOOTAGE MAY BE RELEASED/EXPOSED.Be careful gentlemen.
AWESOME..!..AS ALWAYS..!..THE ATMOSPHERE..THE EMBIENCE THE PATRONS AND OF COURSE, THE VIEWS.. ALSO : CHEESE BURGERS & FRIES ARE VERY AFFORDABLE UNTIL 11PM.. and AFTER 6 or 7PM I BELIEVE, CLIP THE TUCSON WEEKLY AD TO AVOID DOOR COVER.. mikey loves it.!. pms ; PAUL AND MARTIEN ARE THE FUNNIEST, WITTIEST, MOST HALARIOS ATTENDENTS I KNOW OF.. WE GAIN SO MUCH COMICAL MATERIAL ! NUFF SAID ! BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE STAFF & CREW AND OF COURSE THE MARVELOUS, TALENTED BARTENDERS, WAITRESSES AND ENTERTAINERS.. ps,ps ; IF IT WERE NOT FOR CURVES .. ID BE LONG GONE, just like the future x wife... 🤣🫡😎.. NOW JUST MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THOSE HOMELESS DERRILLECTS OUT OF PARKED CARS..ID STOP IN MORE OFTEN IF THE TRANSIENTS WERE NOT LURKING ABOUT..
Nice place, nice environment.DJ Sucks and sounds bored bringing the women on.Seriously...act like they are awesome instead of a basic ingredient to lasagna .Do better
Women getting roofied here. Management didn’t help at all. Instead Bob the owner claims the women are lying. Women had to be taken to ER after and no apology was said. Clubs needs to be shut down.
Really nice club. Girls were sitting around talking or playing on their phones. It took twenty minutes to place an order. Waited another twenty minutes to get the drink. So now its been forty minutes before any girl came and asked if I wanted a dance... I never got a dance. And too many girls sitting around playing on their phones or their at the bar talking. Unprofessional service. Curved used to be my favorite club but now its slowly becoming a bad club. This club is going down hill fast.
Worst club ever! Used to not charge $10 cover fee for ladies, now they do. They demanded I pay the door girl (as I was about to) even though tips ARE OPTIONAL. Sign said $2 domestic, but was charged $10. Has a smoking patio but only allowed 1 reentry so you can only go outside to smoke once. Was there was less than a hour, out $35 and they had so many girls the ladies could only dance for 30 sec to make sure they all got a turn. The only good thing is they were good looking. Never coming back, rather go to tens
I had a lot of fun going to Curves Cabaret. Ive been twice in the last month. They are strict with the rules and COVID compliant. They start with taking your temperature at the door and explaining their rules you have to follow. You are only allowed to have your mask off if you are seated at your table with a drink. $5 dollar cover. All of the dancers and staff wore their masks at all times. My first trip was on Thursday night. $5 Patron and $2 dollar domestic bottles. Quite busy and a lot of girls. They had girls on 2 stages and it took a while to see the same one on stage again. The manager chased me down when I went to the bathroom because I left my mask on the table. He was friendly about it and asked that I put it on if I leave my seat. My second trip was on a Sunday evening, they had $5 dollar Hennessey and $2 domestic bottles. Their wasnt a lot of activity. 8 girls, all very pretty. Overall I had a good time and my wallet did not feel destroyed at the end of my night. My only complaint is the waitress they had on both times wasnt very attentive. The manager paid more attention to my drink levels than she did.
First and last time there. The entrance guard was a very pleasant, and corteous guy. The dancers were highly attractive and range in body types and ethnicities and thats where the good ends. They supposedly had couples specials that are a TOTAL FARCE. $28 a drink is not a 2 for 1 special after waiting almost an hour to be able to get a server to take our order. No one ever stopped by our table to offer a dance or ask for a drink and/or food order. All local reviews represent this establishment as the best in Tucson. If this is the case, how are the rest.Please take this advice and go somewhere else with your significant other.
Was my first time here was really looking forward to it instead got let down, the only people that acknowledged me was security an a bartender even moved by the stage to try to get a girls attention an still nothing, real bummer
An amazing club, amazing woman everyone is super friendly, love the management! There are so many amazing looking woman you will definitely find what you are looking for here. Prices are low so it is super convenient to spend you time with the girls, amazing conversations shared with good drinks. Safe place and security is very good at making sure you find a seat when you walk in especially if you have a large party. Bottle service is so convenient, you will sure feel loved when you come here! 💕
My wife and I had a pleasant experience at this establishment. The entire staff was very friendly, even in a non tip expecting type manner. The waitresses were by far, prettier and friendlier than the majority of gentlemen’s/strip club we’ve been to from Cali to Louisiana ( Which is where we are from)The dancers were more than friendly and hospitable and very pleasing to the eye for sure.We had a great time and we definitely recommend this venue to all.
Multiple women are being roofied at this place including some of the workers management is refusing to do anything about it and is denying to release video footage of a women who just got roofied and feel straight on her face in the club they are trying to make it seem like shes lying when they know they got it all on camera please stay away from this place it isnt safe !!!!!
Be careful when you come in make sure you know the prices before you do anything. Floor dances are $10 and private dances are $20 one of the girls tried to scam me and told me I owed $500 when I asked for management they told me I owed $300 for 15 dances. A lot of frequent visitors probably know this already but if your new like me go with buddies and try pay for the dances in advance. I wont give them a one star because this is partially my fault but I will give them one star because their girl tried to scam me cause I was new. (AVOID MIMI; although theyll probably change her name after this review.)
The management was very rude and unprofessional. They do not care about truly taking care of people who come to this establishment. I heard about this place from a friend and was excited to go and was treated very poorly. Unprofessional and do NOT recommend! Came to spend money their loss
Well. Went in there and had two drinks. Tipped most of the girls dancing on the stage. About six of us sat there without even a contact for a dance. Some girls sat working on thier phones rather than working with the customers. Bad management I guess allows this. Beer was cold although 7 bucks plus a dollar tip for a bottle of miller lite was a bit much with no service.
The dancers were unbelieveably hot! Dancer named Rose was incredible. And VanityAnd Diamond...lol. It was a great time. It was Tuesday and i got 3 dances for the price of 2...some special they were doing. The staff was cool, very respectful. Bartender Kitten was hot. Drinks were good. Music was good.
Many woman that go in to dance are coming out drugged & hurt & the owner doesn’t take in consideration of what’s happening to them please don’t drink at this club or you will be drugged
The serves were very nice but could have been faster to tables with no visible drinks.Dancers were great. Very wide variety. Could have done a little more pole action but thats probably just me. Out of the girls i seen that night 5 of them caught my eye which is pretty good cause Im picky when it comes to girls. They were all very amazing when it came to the point when they found out it was my 21st birthday and made the night special even tho i didnt bring enough money.Drinks are a little pricey so unless u go with 200 bucks just know youre gonna have to choose between getting drunk or typing the girls. I think the girls deserve it more than ur liver tho so theres that.Make sure u find their free admission pass on their website saves money.The best girls arent even in the website so dont choose not to go based on the pics they provideI suggest going and giving all ur money to mia tho :3
This is a three part review: the Ladies, Management, and the Website’s half-truths….Four stars for the Ladies: First, the ladies are all attractive and scantily attired as are the waitresses and bartenders. A few of the waitresses will also offer private dances, and a couple of the bartenders have been known to work topless. Turn-over is quite high; but there is a small handful of regular ladies. Friday night is usually the busiest night with numerous dancers from the Phoenix area.Other reviewers have mentioned two dancers by name: Mia and Pixie. Mia is a sweetheart. Pixie is a high energy bundle of joy. You cant go wrong with either of these young ladies.Zero stars for Management: Management of this club is horrible. The club is filthy and dark. Managers can be disrespectful of customers. If this is the “best strip club in Tucson”, I cringe at the thought of visiting the other clubs. Compared to other clubs across the country I’ve visited, Curves is mediocre at best.First, the place is filthy! The club’s black carpeting hides the stains from the numerous spilled drinks and soil tracked in from the street. The carpet’s filth transfers to the dancers’ shoes and then to the stages. A few dancers wear white stockings. After one session on stage, their white stockings are blackened on the knees from crawling on the stage. Meanwhile, the men’s restroom reeks of stale urine. Rather than clean the restroom, management tries to conceal the smell with an air freshener. Dancers have told me that the women’s restroom isn’t any better. Considering how poorly maintained the public area is, I have to question how the club’s kitchen passes the periodic public health inspection.The club is poorly light. Sometimes it is so dark you cannot see the dancer on the main stage. Anyone wearing all black disappears in the gloom. Half of the black light fixtures are either burned out or empty. Customers wearing white shirts provide most of the illumination in the black light atmosphere. Managers, bartenders, and customers regularly use their phone’s flashlight function to see. Why???? Management says it is to set the mood. More likely it is to hide the dirt. But a dancer has told me management thinks the ladies are not that attractive and have the lights low to conceal the dancers appearance.Managers are disrespectful of their customers. On multiple occasions managers have hassled designated drivers for not drinking. One busy evening when it was standing room only, a manager told me to find a stool at the bar or a chair on the floor. When I asked, “Where?”; he realized how absurd his order was.The music leaves a lot to be desired. If you like urban hip hop and techno, you’ll enjoy the music. However, if you prefer classic rock, pop, or country; you’re going to be sorely disappointed. Also, considering the relatively small size of the club, there is no reason for the high volume. If the DJ cannot hear the music over the conversation on the floor, they need a speaker in the DJ booth. Also, the DJs are often unintelligible when announcing dancers and special offers.The website is deceptive, especially when it comes to prices. Table dances are correctly reported as $10. But the website says VIP dances in the Champagne Room is $20. In reality the Champagne Room is $25. The extra $5 is the clubs 20% cut of the dancers earnings. The website says the Playerz Lounge is $100 for the first half-hour and $75 for the second. None of the dancers will do Playerz Lounge for those prices. The dancer only gets $35 of that first $100. They earn far more on the floor or the Champagne Room for the same amount of time. If you want to spent a half-hour with your favorite dancer, you’ll be negotiating an additional fee for time and extra services. Finally, every photo of the club’s VIP section looks like the club’s exit.
Rudest management I’ve ever met. Came in to pick up some friends and got the go ahead from the door man. When we go in and find one friend we start talking to them while waiting on the other. We’re asked twice if we’re okay by some heavy set guy with glasses and then he proceeds to make a scene saying “I know what this is, you guys need to go.” He practically pushed us out the door without getting our other friend. The whole time he’s smirking like he just did the greatest deed on Earth. 10/10 wouldn’t go again just because of him.
Sunday afternoon. Staff was amazing. Drinks came to our table within the first 10 minutes of walking in the door. Lots of good looking girls for entertainment. 5 Star Sunday
The girls were all extremely skinny. Beautiful, but I like a little meat. And I think because she assumed I was so drunk, she bumped up the price on the VIP dances.. $50 a song!! I would have to be on every drug on earth to pay that price. Nice try tho lmao
Getting there was easy. When we walked in there the first thing i noticed was that it was dark in all the wrong places. If we had to rate the women on a scale of 1-5 stars tge average was 3. The food was moderate at best. The margaritas were bad. But they had decent drink specials. And if i was a drinking man the girls would be 4s. Im not an expert but i have standards.
We took an Uber there and I had a backpack. They wouldnt let me in with it even though it was empty and I offered to leave it at the front desk. Their loss. I was flush with cash, thirsty and had a beautiful woman with me. Kinda the perfect customer.
I stopped here maybe 10 years ago, because of the name and I’m glad I did. I travel the entire country and Canada, Curves ranks in the top three of the many clubs I’ve visited. It’s always special, I’ve never been disappointed. except when it was closed for COVID. Hope to be back soon!
I dont remember her name...but it was a Friday night (last night) and this girl was definitely the best dancer in there... Pole dancer I mean...most of these girls just roll around on the floor, but this girl was great on the pole. I even got my first lapdance from her! Im a woman that enjoys the strip club. Id say this one is better than Tens! Also, one of the bouncers was HOT! I think we had a bit of chemistry going on! Bad points...one of the girls looked like she just rolled out of bed and got stoned before work.
Came here with two buddies and they wanted to make photocopies of our ID’s!!!!Been to numerous clubs before and never heard of this before. We were very disappointed and of course didn’t want anyone to steal our identity. We walked out!We will not be back to this place and will take our business elsewhere.
I had an hour to kill so I thought I would stop for a dance or 2. I sat there for 45 min while 4 or 5 of the girls sat down at the bar with their friends. I was about to get a dance from a cute girl named Dreamer but then she had to get on stage. I eventually settled for a dance from the waitress.
First of all I want to start with the manager. He is the most disrespectful person ever!!! The bouncers are literally just standing their not doing their job. The other day I went to visit I was some actions in their that left me in shock. They just dont take care of their girls. They just care about their MONEY MONEY MONEY.
This place is crooked. One of the black girls took $100 right out of my hand and ran. I told management and they did nothing. Dancers are terrible and greedy, sneaky and all have attitudes.
I got to the club with my guest at 2:18 am the employee said it was close! Clearly the manager said it’s close the website saids 2:30am .. my statement is he isn’t qualify as a manger at all! 👎
Horribly misnamed. Should call this place Styx. Rude management, overpriced, staff all looks coked out of their minds. Girls are nice if you like em skinny I guess (most of em look downright prepubescent yikes). Only a few girls could even be considered Curvy, and management seemed rude to them! Also the whole place is kinda dirty. Will not be returning again.
Curves Cabaret is the Best Strip Club Award winner in Tucson for years now for a reason. With the most beautiful girls, the nicest staff and the best dancers, this is the spot to come for all occasions. The negative reviews are just fake account haters. Come see the difference with your own eyes. :)
Bouncers are great guys, to settle with, and the ladies same just busier and try do what they attend to do for work, I take time to know how the job works. The ladies are not as bad what the arrogant type of people talk about obviously. Which by means I would like to see how theyll progress on Christmas.
I was in town for a friends Birthday. There were 12 of us. It took forever to get drinks because I think the waitresses were dancers too. Overall ok club. Dancers were not bad.
My boyfriend and I like to visit strip clubs when we go out and I have now seen all except Tens. That being said I can honestly say that the handful of times we have been to Curves I have been pleased with the cleanliness but disappointed to find any women with an adequate waist-to-hip ratio (think 7/10, the international ideal). If you are a customer like myself who likes curvy women (i.e. small waist with feminine hips), go try out one of the other clubs in Tucson. At Curves you will find lean women with narrow hips, many painfully obvious fake breasts, a few beauties and Butter-face aplenty; however, sometimes the dancing waitresses are the most naturally beautiful ones and well worth the wait. Service is hit or miss when it is busy, but great when its slow. Also, if you order wine dont expect a wine glass as they do not have any to serve it in.
Great place with great atmosphere!Staff is friendly. Girls are hot looking ,great to talk with and a variety!Best club in Tucson. Food is great & reasonably priced. A place to stop by when the freeway is packed.As well as weekends
My friends and I went here being my second time I been here never again one of the dancers got off the stage and grabbed my phone out of my hands and throw it across the front area not okay like it would of been nice to talk like a real person if there was a problem.🤬🤬🤬
Was in on Thurs 5/3. The bartender (tall blonde) was excellent. Friendly and attentive.Spent some time with Passion. Very easy on the eyes, great lap dances, and good company.
Me & my boyfriend were there like 3 weeks ago during a day shift & we absolutely loved it & had such a great time!! Keep doing you babes!!
The dancers really seem to enjoy what they do. Lots of pole skills to be seen by some true professionals.
Still a good time to be had at Curves Even in our current, covid induced, reality. Strongly recommend Leona, a gorgeous Latina. Avoid Angelica. Never met a more obnoxious, conceited, big ego, dancer. Toxic personality.
The manager Douglas treats the women like cattle. As if he was herding them into the industry. He had me waiting for over an hour, walking pass me multiple times, to finally come up with the excuse that he wasnt able to find me after I got his attention. If so why are you working in a night club with bad vision. Douglass action made me feel small, not anything like a women. After all, this is a womens industry of beauty and we all have some. To Douglas, us women pay your bills. Dont forget that, have class and respect for the ladies!
I got kicked out by a manager in a parking lot because I needed to text my wife and and manage forced me to get out or he will call the TPD! That’s unacceptable!!!!!
The dancers lie about prices. Charged me 20 for table dances when its supposed to be 10. Watch out for Irene, 🐍
Dancer dont like to talk to you cause theyre shy or dont speak English. And no price list available for dances. And drinks are over priced and watered down
A young woman here was just roofied and left unattended by management! Management was even hostile towards her after she told them what happened! 😡
PROTECT EARS. There last week for a gf’s bd. All good…until they put the chair on stage. Then this short fat guy jacks the PA and starts SCREAMING for bd applause. gf is horrified. I’m deaf. Customers run to the door. Why scream over the PA??? gf says he’s a manager that screams at least once a shift to prove he runs the place and no one tells him what to do. If you go, protect your ears…or go to a club that respects the dancers and customers.
I came into Curves Cabaret with high expectations. Let me just say those expectations were dashed. The dancers were homely, inelegant, awkward. The margarita was like drinking a lemons regurgitation of its own fecal matter. Its outrageous, egregious, preposterous, how little this establishment has to offer.
This place is a joke, came with a group ready to spend money. Wings took an hour and they didnt get made until we reminded them that they forgot about our order. The girls look like they all came from shreks swamp
This has to be the worst club I have ever been to in my life and I have been to clubs all across the country the women here just sit do not say anything but want a dance maybe I am wrong at least say hello to me and let me see what I am paying for first and the ones who did actually say anything were hideous!!! Do not go to this place hell thought I would never say this goto raiders over here
First there was no cover charge at hour I went. Sadie was awesome. Upfront and honest and great performer made my time memorable.
This place has gone downhill since COVID. The doormen often ask for tips. Ive been ripped off a couple times. Dont come alone or the staff will take advantage of you.
Went here three times, had drinks poured in our laps 2/3 times by dancers demanding money for sitting next to us and drinking our alcohol. Ridiculous.
HEY CURVES! CAN YOU PLEASE CLEAN YOUR TAP LINES, THE BEER IS HORRIBLE AND THERES CERTAINLY MOLD IN YOUR TAP LINES....I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. ...CUSTOMERS-DONT ORDER BEER FROM TAP ITS DISGUSTING. ....OTHER THAN THAT ITS A GREAT GENTLEMEN CLUB!
These people hate military! I went here Last night and they wanted to kick me out and fight me for no reason! Terrible management
Took my 21 year old for his birthday. What can I say, we had so much fun. Spent a lot but its an adult club, was to be expected.
Crazy unprofessional… I miss mid 90’s Florida clubs … Tucson is a cesspool
Place us cramped. Tried sit comfortably at the bar but at least one too many stools forcing anyone who sits there to only face out putting their feet and legs in walkway
The dancers and waitresses were very well mannered and kind. Overall it was a good experience.
Great prices for VIP dances & if they seem too high, some of the girls were up to negotiate prices. I would return.
Been multiple times spend at least a hundred a visit, only the bartenders talk to you. Tipped a dancer a 20 still sat with her bf.
They have beautiful girls there at curves they are nice and pretty girls its the best strip club gentlemen in whole world
Saturday night is couples night.. and two for ones... Friendly staff beautiful exotic Dancers.
Place is Horrible Servicers Will Take Your Money Deny , & Try To Hide They Never Took Your Order Almost 9$ for a beer is a joke , Dancers Are Awful Too Place Is Like A Running Zoo HONESTLY
Deceiving business practices and robbed me $40 on top of it.
Ken was super awesome when I went in today!! So helpful and super friendly, can’t wait to be back😚
Curves Cabaret Oracle has the most beautiful women Ive ever seen at any gentlemen’s club.
Took my wife here, 2 strippers, 1 over 40 and one over 400lbs. Hard Pass.
Bout time they got new carpet it was pretty much already coming off just stepping on it
Great drink specials. Always have a great time when I go here.
Rude staff didnt even make it inside just the interaction with the security guard person was enough to make me never come back
Best place to go and party amazing drinks amazing girls amazing vibe this will forever be my go to place !!!
Great club great venue awsome bar and the best women in town awsome staff
Customer service and management are horrible. However the dancers are gorgeous.
First time i been here with my neighbor for me and i never been here before, and its looks so cool b/c of the neon lights
Dont go!!! The management sucks very impolite place dont blame them if you want to go just remember i warned you
Love this place. Friendly girls, modest prices friendly staff
At the time we went there was only a couple dancers.
Always busy with beautiful girls and busy customers and clean
They just got new carpet in the whole place! yay smells nicer now
Really nice friendly people an the ladies are polite and friendly for a good time
Dont recommend it if youre reading this dont go trust me you will thank me later.....
Great girl selection and best lunch specials ever
Great door price and the ladies are the best in town.
Very difficult to understand how you operate as a club. Rude service. Not friendly at all
Service is outstanding!Dancers were fine!!
Lots of girls, but its super dark so its hard to really see them.
I like how some of the girls are nice looking
Great experience, beautiful women, and decent prices...
Great club, beautiful girls, good prices
Decent girls and good drink specials
Beautiful women... Clean. Great service.
Nice variety...All high quality.
My phone was stolen this evening. Please Respond
Only place in Tucson with a 1$ burger 🍔
Awesome evening had a great time
Great food and no cover
Best show club in town.
Walked in with a full wallet and walked out with empty wallet and pockets.
Great place great girls and great service.
Fun place
Very nice people fun
Over price strippers...but okay
Smelt like tuna left in the sun
Best strip club in Tucson
Best Club, Dancer, Drinks
Really crowded on Saturdays
Best club in tucson
They are rude
Great food
Great
Great atmosphere
Best in town
Love curves
Really nice
Beautiful beauty
It was Great!!!
Beautiful women,